The Fight Against Photo Radar in Edmonton Continues with Jack Shultz and His Movement

Jack Shultz has basically initiated a movement. He is no longer alone in warning drivers of radar ahead.

[Notice: This article is heavily opinionated]

Back in late May, I wrote an article about Mr. Shultz and his dedicated objection to the City of Edmonton’s strong photo radar presence. That article garnered a ton of controversy. You can [view that article here] before continuing on with this one if you haven’t seen it yet.

It’s been roughly a month and a half since I’ve written an update about him, and since I’ve been keeping in touch with him, I’ve decided to write an update on the whole ordeal to see just how good things have been going for him in his battle.

The movement has begun:

Mr. Shultz is no longer alone in his mission; that mission being:

to get rid of photo radar in Edmonton.

In early June, he took it upon himself to order a bunch of yellow “radar ahead” and “cash cow” signs. Not only did he sell at least 20 of them to those who wish to help him achieve his ultimate goal of removing photo radar from the capital city of Alberta, but he also donated an additional 20 to others as well.

Here are some of his signs:

Shultz photo radar signs collection

A Bit of Edmonton Photo Radar History and Statistics:

When the City of Edmonton took over photo radar implementation back in 2013, which the EPS [Edmonton Police Service] used to be solely-responsible for, the number of ‘6-10km/hr over’ tickets issued immediately jumped up – get this – [2,055 percent]!

Yes, you read that right. 2,055%.

Number of ‘6-10km/hr over’ tickets went from 3,252 tickets issued in 2013, to just shy of 66,500 tickets issued in 2014.

In that same time frame, the total number of tickets soared from 163,000 to 510,000.

The City of Edmonton started secretly giving tickets to those driving anything above 10km/hr over the posted speed limit, rather than what the EPS were ticketing for, which was only after 15km/hr over the speed limit and higher.

Even photo radar operators themselves feel that the change is “greasy.”

Money made from issued tickets due to photo radar went from $13.4 million in 2012 when the EPS was handling it, up to $34.5 million in 2014.

Mr. White, an ex-photo radar truck operator informs [Edmonton Journal] that if a photo radar truck operator was in a location where they were not getting a high number of violations, they were directed to go to another area where more speeders would be caught. “That’s not about safety anymore,” he says. “That’s about let’s get the numbers up.”

When the city’s traffic division took over and started giving out tens of thousands more tickets on Edmonton’s streets in 2013, it did not coincide with a drop in major accidents.

Similarly, when Sherwood Park removed photo radar entirely, their streets did not become disaster zones, either.

Photo radar implementation in Edmonton was expected to cost roughly $1.3 million per year, however things have gotten completely out of control, instead costing over $10 million per year, which is simply outrageous.

You Don’t Know Jack? Let’s learn about him and his movement:

Jack Shultz and thousands of others know about the prior-mentioned statistics regarding Edmonton’s photo radar. They know that it’s fact when we say that photo radar in Edmonton is not about safety, but rather, about making money. How the City of Edmonton simply doesn’t own up to this, is just ludicrous.

Mr. Shultz has been hard at this now for the past 3 months. He’s been “milking cows” for over 75 days as of this writing. When we say “milking cows,” it means that he parked his vehicle a fair distance behind a photo radar truck in Edmonton, pulled out his massive “radar ahead” sign, and went on to inform Edmonton traffic about sneakishly hidden photo radar trucks.

In those 75 days, Shultz informs us that he has managed to “milk” just shy of 90 radar trucks. If a photo radar operator moves their truck while Shultz is behind it informing traffic, he goes on to find a second photo radar truck to “milk.” So with that said, he has “milked” more than one photo radar truck in a single day on several occasions.

Shultz informs us that the Edmonton Police Service has threatened him on several occasions in an effort to get him to stop what he is doing. This however, hasn’t worked to date, and will not work in the future. Shultz knows that what he is doing is perfectly legal, and he will continue the good fight. One officer had even thanked him for what he is doing; helping slow down traffic.

Shultz informs us that he has several recordings of police being less than fair on his YouTube account. Feel free to take a look at his [account here].

Back in April of this year, when Shultz was handed a stunting ticket by the EPS, over 40 locals got together to [pay for his ticket and then some via a GoFundMe page]. It is safe to say that Shultz has countless local supporters.

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He has received at least one ticket to date, has been illegally detained, unlawfully charged, and had his signs taken from him by EPS.

Shultz has even expanded his campaign to Calgary, and plans to expand to Grande Prairie and Peace River as well.

Jack Shultz wanted to state the following to our readers:

Yes there where times where I spoke my mind to the photo radar operators and the EPS, but it was done in retaliation of all the bullshit they are trying to do to me and them trying to use threats to get me to stop this movement, which I refuse to back down. We are starting to be noticed more and more as these days go by… Also I am having issues now with the police giving me requested information that I am entitled to.Jack Shultz

He goes on to say:

There have been a few [people] that where against what I am doing, but after coming down and meeting me and seeing with their own eyes that what I’m doing is making our roads safer, they have leaned towards my movement.Jack Shultz

Math time. How much money has Shultz saved us?

LOW ESTIMATE — If Shultz happened to have saved 100 people from receiving a speeding ticket per “milking,” at an average of $100 per ticket, then at 90 “milkings” to date, he may have saved Edmontonians [and others driving on our city’s roads] just shy of $1 million.

BEST ESTIMATE — If he happened to have saved 200 people from receiving tickets per “milking,” then he is closer to saving Edmontonians $2 million in just 3 months.

HIGH ESTIMATE — According to Edmontonian Don Shearer on Facebook, who sat at a restaurant on Stony Plain Road for 45 minutes, he witnessed over 80 flashes in that 45 minute period. [See his comment here – closed Facebook group] If we were to use this same math for Jack Shultz on all of his “milkings” (as an above-average estimate), he then may have saved Edmontonians over $4.7 million.

Others in the Movement to diminish photo radar:

Shultz has sold and donated signs to many supporters, including:


The latest person to receive a stunting ticket is local Perron Sylvestre. He shared his story on the Facebook page [Edmonton Laser Photo Traps Alerts]. [It is a closed group, which requires you to be a member of before viewing posts.]

Sylvestre writes:

There for about 20 minutes and they call 3 cars to come give me a ticket. I kindly inform the first office that I am promoting safe driving. He then asks if I’d politely walk away. I agreed and he went to his car to run info. The second officer then says I am getting a ticket, and I said the first officer said no. He then said I don’t care I’ll give you one. Good to know our cops are fighting crime. $543 pedestrian stunting ticket.Perron Sylvestre

In just two short hours after posting this to the prior-mentioned Facebook group, people have already offered to help pitch in to pay for Sylvester’s ticket.


An anonymous Edmontonian informed me of the following:

A friend of mine was also targeted by police for the same thing [holding a ‘radar ahead’ sign]. He managed to avoid a stunting ticket by standing up for his rights and calling EPS while speaking with the officer about the harassment as he was being threatened with arrest for a none-arrestable offense!Anonymous

It just goes to show that what these photo radar objection devotees are up to is entirely legal. If you are worried about being ticketed for stunting, don’t be. If you need legal assistance, shoot [Robbie Wood] a message. He’s the local man to get in touch with when it comes to these types of issues, and is very well known for it; on social media especially.

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Fair warning:

If you plan on helping with the movement, please be aware that waving a sign around, waving your arms around or even simply pointing towards your sign is against the law, which can garner you a ticket by the EPS under ‘stunting,’ which is just shy of $550. Although this is a ticket that is easily won in court, it is an added headache that does not need to be had due to it being easily preventable.

Yes, it is indeed stunting, even if you see the food companies [Little Caesars, anyone?] and tax companies [Liberty Tax, anyone?] doing it all the time. But they’re not taking money away from the city, so it’s alright. [/sarcasm]

Liberty Tax and Little Caesars Sign Twirling
This is stunting.

Thank you Jack Shultz, for what you’ve single-handedly started. This movement may very well be the first step in obliterating photo radar in Edmonton.


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Jody Mitoma

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  • July 11, 2016 at 1:19 AM
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    Jody Mitoma you need to correct your “math time” section. 100 is way high of an estimate….more like 10-15 per milking

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    • July 15, 2016 at 1:22 AM
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      Frank, I invite you to spend just one hour near a photo radar truck that is using flash photography. You’ll be quick to realize that your math is very much incorrect. Also, Jack spends more than just a single hour per milking. He spends several.

      I don’t expect you think the City of Edmonton manages to give out over 500,000 tickets per year at a rate of 10-15 tickets per milking, do you?

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      • August 1, 2016 at 5:20 PM
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        Jody, the guy whos admin on the “:photo alert alerts” fb page posted his results from the city on photo activity — his request for access to information. look into it please.

        the MOST tickets issued …by location… is on heyday and ray gibbons drive. 824 deployments…. 94948 tickets…. this is 115 tickets per deployment ON THE HOTTEST LOCATION IN TOWN. If you look at Gateway and Elerslie … its 25400 on 940 deployments. that works out to 27 tickets per deployment. So even if jack saves EVERY SIMGLE TICKET, it’s only 27 per milking. Maybe jack shows up halfway thru the shift … thats 14 tickets saved??? and if he saved EVERY ticket on the hottest location….thats only 115 tickets per milking. so you’re BEST ESTIMATE of 200 per milking isn’t even remotely possible!!!!

        U shuld do the research before posting numbers.

        this is why citizen journalism is worthless. the math IS SIMPLE>

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  • Keith Pears
    July 9, 2016 at 11:18 AM
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    Exactly what I try to do Bazz. I get where I was going a short 5 minutes later than if I was speeding and just need another hour to decompress from the stress of being the only one in the road not speeding and being treated that way by fellow motorists

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  • Geoff MacNeil
    July 9, 2016 at 2:36 PM
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    It’s even funnier how accident rates have been going up even with more photo radar. Could it possibly have something to do with the paranoia around the way it’s run now and people (speeding or not) are looking in areas where there “could” be photo radar vehicles or constantly looking at their speedometers than paying attention to their surroundings and the things that matter while driving. There are many more variables than just saying “don’t speed”. That is the stupidest argument to the photo radar debate. It’s like saying don’t drive and don’t get in a car ever so you don’t ever get hurt in an accident. Unfortunately though people who say “just don’t speed” won’t ever read the studies and look at the statistics from both sides to make an educated opinion on the matter and will just keep blindly believing what they are told.

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  • July 9, 2016 at 6:40 AM
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    I’m more angry about the stunting ticket than the photo radar. This charge seems highly unconstitutional. Considering you are exercising your right to free expression and there are a million other signs distracting drivers.

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  • Lanelle Berardi
    July 9, 2016 at 7:39 AM
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    So if photo radar is removed, where do you think the money will come from that they are using from radar tickets? They will raise taxes or raise other fines. If you speed you are breaking the law, hence a fine.

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    • Edmonton Talks News
      July 9, 2016 at 7:48 AM
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      But they’re spending $10 million to make $20 million. It makes no sense.

      The more money they’re making on tickets, the more money they’re spending to make that money via photo radar truck operators, etc.

      Taxes weren’t dropped when City of Edmonton took over in 2013, so why should it raise if photo radar is removed?

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    • Edmonton Talks News
      July 9, 2016 at 7:55 AM
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      Not to be a jerk, but the City of Edmonton already has a debt owing of over $2 billion. What’s another $20 million.

      Anyway, you’ll have those that are for photo radar, and those that are against. In the case of City of Edmonton, I am definitely against, because they are playing an unreasonable game. If things went back to how they were in 2012, I’d be entirely fine with it sticking around.

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    • Lanelle Berardi
      July 9, 2016 at 7:51 AM
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      Because taxes. They always find a reason to cover shortfalls.
      And spend 10 to make 20 isn’t a loss.

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  • Matt Blake
    July 9, 2016 at 6:43 PM
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    As much as it is a cash cow, we as speeders are enabling it. The only way to get rid of it is to stop them from making money on it. Until we keep giving them a reason to use it, it will be here.
    I get caught speeding sometimes, it sucks but I could have prevented everyone

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  • July 11, 2016 at 6:36 PM
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  • July 25, 2016 at 12:26 AM
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    I hate that i can get a fine even though I’m moving smoothly with traffic in an orderly fashion. An actual police person could see that but not a computer that will ding the entire group. I know of no statistics pointing out Alberta cities as being safer as a result of photo radar.

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  • September 26, 2016 at 11:11 AM
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    Just got a Photo Radar ticket on the Anthony Henday Dr., I’m from a small town in Alberta and most of us are target for this kinda of entrapment. But small town people talk a the word gets around that Cities who attach out of town shoppers and people like me just going to a doctors appointment can go to other cities or towns to spend their hard earned money, instead of paying for your new hockey rink and other infrastructure projects.

    In my Town in Central Alberta, the Mayor and Council thought they would make a lot of money from Photo Radar, but most people who got caught were from small towns driving through or innocent people getting caught in the trap area’s. The City council ended the program within a year after realizing people from small towns who got these evil tickets will talk, and spread the word, about avoiding these certain Evil Towns who give out these cowardly tickets to generate income.

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  • January 13, 2017 at 8:41 AM
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    Funny how Perron Sylvestre had 3 cops show up after 20 minutes because of this. Meanwhile, last year I witnessed 3 drunk people drive up to the train station to drop someone off and came inside. They were clearly drunk and you could smell it, this was around 11PM. I called EPS and reported it, they said they would send someone. Over an hour later, nobody showed up, and they left, driving away in their car, drunk. Priorities right? Guess if you’re preventing the city from making money that’s a high priority, much more important than stopping a drunk driver from killing someone.

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  • May 27, 2017 at 11:27 AM
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    Thank you for reporting on this issue,which has gotten out of control. I really hope this reaches our politicians somehow ,so that this illegal taxation of our citizens can be stopped.

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  • Amy Brown
    July 9, 2016 at 12:52 PM
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    I’ve got a crazy idea. If we all don’t speed then there is no cash cow !? Crazy right!

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    • Jack Shultz
      July 9, 2016 at 3:41 PM
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      Out of the hundreds of hours I have protested I have seen drunk drivers, people pulling up smoking dope, people reading,texting,talking on their phone. I’ve seen woman doing their make up….and to top it off I seen a female giving a dude a blow job as he drove by on June 19th on Whyte Ave and 93rd?????? and your comment is dont speed?????
      Come on people open your eyes….THIS IS ABOUT SAFETY!!!!!!!

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      • July 10, 2016 at 5:47 AM
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        Couldn’t agree with you more Jack….the presence of these photo radar trucks has actually contributed to the increase of accidents caused by distracted driving. I see the crap other drivers are pulling on the roads,where is the police service to curb reckless driving, cellphone chatting and texting etc….? These are detrimental to road safety has well ( mind you,these are the same folks who will tell you “don’t speed”.). Never mind the two or three vehicles that pop up when they actually nab a speeder. That creates accidents,too. (Drivers rubbernecking to see why the so many units that actually caught a speeder). Lowering the speed limits on city streets in the name of safety? Total BS. Another reason to put the photo radar cash cow into play. How about something new like protecting Edmontonians from violent crimes,which have risen dramatically over the past few years? Is this not SAFETY,too?

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    • Amanda Shingar
      July 9, 2016 at 3:26 AM
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      Do you know how much of a piss off it is to get a ticket for doing 62 in a 50 zone, simply because you’re in a new area looking up at street signs and miss the speed change ahead sign.. and then radar is sitting RIGHT AT the 50km/hr sign? I don’t speed. Had he been 20 feet forward from where he was.. I would have been slowed enough that no ticket would have been issued. Photo radar is a crock.

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      • October 12, 2016 at 3:08 PM
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        I don’t speed and recently got a ticket in a school zone. I was looking also for the EI office in Mill-woods in Autumn 2016, with very yellow leaves, the sign was almost invisible and blocked at a distance by tree foliage so sign was not viable until around 25m away (measured), the second sign after intersection in the area is also blocked by a bus sign, that one I barely saw and applied the brakes so I was travelling at 30Km by the time I reached the second sign. I explained all this to the officer and still received a ticket 47Km/Hr in 30 Km/Hr zone. (I took photo’s to prove).

        At a spot farther up the road another school, the tree foliage totally blocked the school zone sign unless you were beside the sign. This is entrapment, as in normal driving you are continuously watching your mirrors for other traffic and easily miss a sign.

        I am going to go after the City of Edmonton in court about this as this cash cow has nothing to do about safety. If it was about safety, The city would install flashing Radar warning signs ( like on the white mud eastbound near 99 street, warning signs the school zone is ahead, and or flashing lights like they do in Leduc. By the way in BC all signs include the KM/HR as part of the sign, what does 30 mean? (for a technicality)

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    • Nathan Krieger
      July 9, 2016 at 7:50 AM
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      Johanna Parks no, not really.
      I personally hate photo radar. But I don’t hate it because I get tickets for speeding (only got 2 in about 3 years)
      I hate it because I’m tired of people slamming on there breaks for every f150 sitting on the side of the street, I hate it cause there are a few instances where people have gotten a ticket for going 75 in a 70 zone.
      But I mainly hate it cause they will send 3 cops to talk to someone having a radar sign on there vehicle but they will wait 5 hours to respond to a domestic disturbance call, or a break and enter, or an assault.
      You wanna pay extra people to do stuff in this city hire more police officers. Get them pulling the speeders over, not paying some asshat 30$/h to sit in a truck giving out tickets that you don’t see for 2-3 weeks.
      You want people to not speed. Pay a marked police officer to sit in plain view where these pogo radar trucks sit.
      BOOM!!! no more speeding cause people don’t want the ticket, radar was made for that. Stop people speeding. Hence why photo radar at intersections is clearly labeled 50m from the intersection.

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    • Andrew Dickson
      July 12, 2016 at 9:48 AM
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      Laurie Kozy… incorrect… I’ve seen this firsthand and had people almost cause collisions by slamming on the brakes cuz they saw a photo radar truck at the last second… they were already at the 50km limit or just under it.. slammed on the brakes down to 25-30km… this happens a lot more than you think and after being a victim of a false photo radar ticket, I now understand why they do this. They’re not always accurate and for all we know, they received a ticket saying they were 15+ over when in fact they were doing the limit or close to it. Your day will come too… I’m not sure how it works, but my guess is that the camera has troubles focusing on the car’s plate as it passes and then makes a miscalculation of the speed due to this focusing error, thus recording the speed faster than it really was… which is another reason why it should be illegal in the first place. If it’s not 100% accurate, it’s nothin more than hearsay

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    • Jody Mitoma
      July 9, 2016 at 2:23 AM
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      There are over 500,000 speeders caught every year. This is clearly not a feasible solution to the issue at hand.

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    • Johanna Parks
      July 9, 2016 at 6:54 AM
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      Sheep, that’s a bit insulting for someone stating the obvious don’t you think!!!

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    • Kara Lee Zawalski
      July 9, 2016 at 8:16 AM
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      The car just to speed back up again. I used to speed all the time, but guess what I got sick of paying 1000 every time I had to renew registration so guess what….. I stopped speeding and I stopped getting tickets. Imagine that.

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    • Nathan Krieger
      July 9, 2016 at 9:06 AM
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      Kara Lee Zawalski I do that same with photo radar. I can usually spot those guys from a mile away. Even radar setups from cops I can normally spot.
      I speed 90% of the time. The other 10% I’m passing a cop or photo radar spot.
      Now I don’t go full retard like 75 in a 60 zone. But I got at least 5-10 over in the city at all times.

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    • Jack Shultz
      July 9, 2016 at 3:40 PM
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      Out of the hundreds of hours I have protested I have seen drunk drivers, people pulling up smoking dope, people reading,texting,talking on their phone. I’ve seen woman doing their make up….and to top it off I seen a female giving a dude a blow job as he drove by on June 19th on Whyte Ave and 93rd??????
      Come on people open your eyes.

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    • Laurie Kozy
      July 10, 2016 at 10:12 AM
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      Nathan Krieger Again … there would be no “slamming on brakes” if they weren’t speeding in the first place !!

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    • Bazz Collie
      July 9, 2016 at 8:09 AM
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      This is a simple concept to learn folks, dont speed! If you are unsure of the limit, then do 50. Your vehicle is equipped with brakes and a speedometer for a reason, use them! If no one was speeding there would be zero need to have photo radar

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      • July 9, 2016 at 9:21 AM
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        If people didn’t speed.
        Edmonton city council would lower the speed limits….oh wait…they are doing that.

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    • Andy Taylor
      July 10, 2016 at 10:41 AM
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      Speed or don’t speed. The government makes the laws and we have no say in the government. We elect dictators every so often. We need a better system of government, where the power is in the people’s hands. However, If I speed, I know that I deserve to pay a premium for that elite service.

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